tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post3812640075988504610..comments2023-12-16T16:50:25.810-08:00Comments on The Heart of the Matter: Great American HypocritesBarry Eislerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17785333622697500192noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-4277108985987857342008-04-07T10:32:00.000-07:002008-04-07T10:32:00.000-07:00i think that politicians have destroyed the meanin...i think that politicians have destroyed the meanings of both liberal and conservative. the Republicans managed to make the word liberal an insult, and a lot of Democrats have helped them do it by not really standing for much of anything. the Republicans have also destroyed the word conservative, but they did that pretty much on their own.fahrenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16878121962503597742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-22290677745405989782008-04-07T09:24:00.000-07:002008-04-07T09:24:00.000-07:00Fair enough, anon - but I'd note a great many "lib...Fair enough, anon - but I'd note a great many "liberals" in the House and Senate voted for the Iraq war, the Patriot Act, Kyl / Lieberman, FISA . . . and stood by while the President broke federal law and our country tortured prisoners and kept folks locked up for years without due process . . . <BR/><BR/>To me, that's not liberal. But I acknowledge your point that politicians often don't represent the political POV. So other than bloggers, who of our elected does?Joshua Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239067667651048280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-66226297168048844252008-04-07T08:46:00.000-07:002008-04-07T08:46:00.000-07:00Joshua, I'd have to disagree with you on that Libe...Joshua, I'd have to disagree with you on that Liberal thing. Government did work quite well under Democratic (Liberal) control for many years. The problems came with Reagan and his so called Conservatives. Up until Reagan the country had amassed, since its inception, 1+ Trillion dollars in dept. Reagan tripled that, George Bush senior added and Dubya doubled that. These three "Conservatives" administrations have added 70% of all the debt this country has incurred in its entire history. <BR/><BR/>Conservatives destroyed the conservative label, by abandoning their principles. Liberals did not tarnish the Liberal label by abandoning theirs. The Liberal label was demonized by conservatives and the same media that Glenn writes about.<BR/><BR/>I am a very proud Liberal!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-57203238497041953952008-04-07T07:25:00.000-07:002008-04-07T07:25:00.000-07:00Barry,Thanks for the recommendation. Have you rea...Barry,<BR/>Thanks for the recommendation. Have you read Thom Hartman's book, Cracking the Code? Since your blog is about politics and language, you might find it interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-54562791565488881382008-04-06T12:05:00.000-07:002008-04-06T12:05:00.000-07:00One could make almost that argument about the word...One could make almost that argument about the word "liberal" as well . . . I guess I've identified myself as a "progressive" rather than liberal for a long time due to a similar situation . . . I think there needs to be a party for people whose primary goal is that government should work and work efficiently, heh-heh.Joshua Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239067667651048280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-44972976687979500432008-04-06T08:47:00.000-07:002008-04-06T08:47:00.000-07:00Agreed on Klein and FISA, Joshua, and that's a fai...Agreed on Klein and FISA, Joshua, and that's a fair question about how to describe my politics. For shorthand, I'd call myself libertarian. At this point, that renders me less comfortable with what the Republicans have become than it does with the Democrats. Republicans have so perverted the term "conservative" (borrow and spend and record breaking deficits is conservative? Iraq is conservative? Terry Shiavo is conservative?) that you're right, maybe I should let it go and find some other way to describe myself.<BR/><BR/>-- BarryBarry Eislerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17785333622697500192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-27793808695545439442008-04-06T08:30:00.000-07:002008-04-06T08:30:00.000-07:00Glenn's great, I've been following his blog for qu...Glenn's great, I've been following his blog for quite some time . . . I thought his takedown of Joe Klein via the FISA mess was worthy of a Pulizter in terms of reporting . . . <BR/><BR/>Do you truly consider yourself a conservative, Barry? I mean, we have to truly redefine the word these days, don't you think? Because you're not in favor of prayer in school and Intelligent Design and . . . well, you know what I'm saying, right?Joshua Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08239067667651048280noreply@blogger.com