tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post6246548119296881062..comments2023-12-16T16:50:25.810-08:00Comments on The Heart of the Matter: Duplicity, Delusion, and Cognitive DissonanceBarry Eislerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17785333622697500192noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-72147081005615431722008-04-07T21:10:00.000-07:002008-04-07T21:10:00.000-07:00Ron, thanks for coming by -- always a pleasure to ...Ron, thanks for coming by -- always a pleasure to meet another reader of Glenn's blog.<BR/><BR/>I'm familiar with Clinton's arguments about what she really meant in voting for "Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002," but I'm not persuaded. Voting for a resolution with a title like that one while issuing a statement about how you don't intend the authorization to be used strikes me as an obvious attempt to have it both ways -- a hawkish vote to shore up your flank with the right; a soft-sounding "signing statement" to appease the left.<BR/><BR/>I've also read Obama's statement about not knowing how he would have voted had he been a US senator at the time. This strikes me simply as a fair-minded (and indeed, rather generous to Clinton) statement of fact. After all, what would the alternative be? "I would have voted against the resolution no matter what the intel said"?<BR/><BR/>I can't agree that Obama's "criticism at the time that it mattered was pretty mild". Here are his <A HREF="http://lessig.org/blog/2008/01/barack_obamas_2002_speech.html" REL="nofollow">remarks from Oct 30, 2002</A>.<BR/><BR/>That's a fair point about the difference between Coulter and Al Franken. I meant the comparison to apply to tone -- particularly to insults -- but you're right, there's more going on than just tone.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for coming by and hope to see more of you.<BR/><BR/>-- BarryBarry Eislerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17785333622697500192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-71024938415535372542008-04-07T09:20:00.000-07:002008-04-07T09:20:00.000-07:00It strikes me as imprecise to the point of error t...It strikes me as imprecise to the point of error to say that Hillary voted to authorize the war. Read her own statements at the time of the vote to get a clearer view on what she voted for. One can have an opinion that what she said was not what she was actually thinking, but on principle, I object to that sort of guesswork. <BR/><BR/>Obama also said he didn't know how he would have voted if he'd been in the Senate and been given the same intel that Hillary received (though I've read, but don't know if this is true, that she didn't read the intel). Now, since the war is so unpopular, that comment is never brought out and only his criticism of the war is allowed play. His criticism at the time that it mattered was pretty mild.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I just came across your blog from a mention by Glenn Greenwald, and I liked what you say you intend here, especially your criticism of polemicists. I would not say, however, that there's an equivalency between Ann Coulter and Michael Moore or Al Franken (particularly the latter), since Ms. Coulter seems never to tell the truth (in her books especially, virtually everything she wrote was a distortion or outright lie, starting on page one).<BR/><BR/>I'll read somewhat anonymously here to see if I wish to get one of those IDs and post that way.<BR/><BR/>--Ron RobertsonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-5138040229452812852008-04-03T18:17:00.000-07:002008-04-03T18:17:00.000-07:00Amen! Excellent comments!Amen! Excellent comments!zztopdoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01857583016929986836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-4895355439455379242008-04-01T12:51:00.000-07:002008-04-01T12:51:00.000-07:00Can I shake your hand?Can I shake your hand?Ada [The Duchess]https://www.blogger.com/profile/17440830191796863095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-48934933697392771612008-03-31T18:03:00.000-07:002008-03-31T18:03:00.000-07:00classic rhetorical to close hooah!classic rhetorical to close hooah!Big Bo Daddy-Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273542882897773560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-58104179545613352792008-03-29T09:00:00.000-07:002008-03-29T09:00:00.000-07:00oh how true a Clinton always wins and there is som...oh how true a Clinton always wins and there is something stonger then Clintons that also wins that being humility truely quite the teacher of life.although she might be humbled and pride of it <BR/> THANKS FOR YOUR WONDERFUL COMMENTARIES<BR/> cyndi sueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-9785728754185156802008-03-29T04:07:00.000-07:002008-03-29T04:07:00.000-07:00can't say I'm surprised. in the media frenzy world...can't say I'm surprised. in the media frenzy world of today, you're not allowed to point out that things aren't going well, because people will beleive you. you say that everything's fine and only some people don't beleieve you. it's a lot easier to deny reality than admit it might have something to do with anything ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-73329354075312488302008-03-28T19:19:00.000-07:002008-03-28T19:19:00.000-07:00I agree as well. I would also like to add that thi...I agree as well. I would also like to add that this practice extends to the the general public. This form of conflict with reality and things as we know it is beginning to surface at the global level. Our involvement in the social political and economic aspect of the global society has help to facilitate and perpetuate the heirarchical structure of the world. I am waiting for the day when people must come to terms with the inequality in the global structure and our responsiblity for these inequalities. Our country has done a pretty good job of jusifying the internal inequalities by using theories like "blaming the victim" and the "culture of poverty." The next leader of the U.S. will be crucial. The next leader can help put an end to our culture's incessant need to conquer and then justify.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22165230.post-84236901107958808672008-03-28T16:09:00.000-07:002008-03-28T16:09:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kate Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05486916548114546095noreply@blogger.com